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TRAVELING THE UNIVERSE ON A
PAPER PLANE: AN INTERVIEW WITH SEYMOUR SIMON
By Eleise Jones
Today the name Seymour Simon
is synonymous with science writing for children. This
association has been a long time in the making--through
three decades of scientific discovery, Simon has penned more
than two hundred children’s books, and he shows no signs of
slowing down.
Simon lives on Long Island,
not far from his childhood home in the Bronx. He traces his
early interest in the natural world to his old
neighborhood’s abundance of vacant lots, which later served
as the basis for his book Science in a Vacant Lot. As
a teenager he was elected president of New York’s Junior
Astronomy Club and went on to earn a degree in animal
behavior.
Before Simon started writing
for children, he taught them, primarily about the earth
sciences. His first writing assignment came in 1963 for
Scholastic magazines, on the eve of humankind’s first
landing on the moon. Simon’s predictions about what we might
find up there led to dozens more articles and eventually to
his first book: Animals in Field and Laboratory: Science
Projects in Animal Behavior. Early on his work was
illustrated with pencil drawings, but today many of them are
accompanied by full-color photographs--some taken by the
Hubble Space Telescope, nature photographers, or Simon
himself. His books are enormously well received thanks to
his dexterous craft, his penchant for the extraordinary, and
his continued connection to kids (he credits his
grandchildren as sounding boards as well as sources for new
material).
Indeed, we can travel the
universe by way of Simon’s canon. His books take us into
vast outer space to tour the planets, then soar through the
atmosphere, along the tips of icebergs, and into the mouths
of volcanoes. They observe the habits of gorillas and the
intricate workings of the human heart and brain; they
discover the internal clocks of chrysanthemums and farm
dogs; and they even squeeze into the living spaces of
microscopic insects and viruses. There is no place on, in,
or around the earth that Seymour Simon is afraid to explore.
I recently reached him by
telephone to discuss his prolific career and insatiable
curiosity.
JONES: What makes a good
science book for children?
SIMON: Well, a lot of it is
indefinable. A lot of it has to do with the writing, whether
it’s interesting, whether it’s clear, whether it leads to
further interest in the subject. It’s almost like asking
what makes a good fiction book. The difference is that in a
science book the information also has to be true and as
accurate as we know it at the time, since obviously some of
these things are further investigated, and down the road
something will be found which will change what you’re
saying. I think, however, that’s less important than making
sure what you write is stimulating and opens up the world
instead of just answering questions and closing down any
further investigation, or any further interest.
JONES: Why do you choose to
write for children and not adults?
SIMON: I was a teacher when I
began writing, and I began writing for Scholastic
magazines. I submitted an article, before we set foot on the
moon, about what we might find there. They not only
published the article, they actually had me in for an
interview and asked me if I might be interested in doing a
monthly science supplement for their fifth-grade magazine.
So that started me, and I wrote maybe seventy or eighty
articles for Scholastic over a number of years before
I wrote my first book.
JONES: You once said you
"grew up as a country kid as well as a city kid. What
about these environments interested you as a child?
SIMON: I was born in the
Bronx, which is of course very, very urban, even when I was
born, which was many years ago. But the thing about the
Bronx is even at that time there were vacant lots with a
profusion of weeds and all kinds of things growing as well
as insects and things like that. In addition, there were
plenty of places--parks we could go to and a seashore not
far away where we went in the summers--and my parents (in
common with a lot of people in those days, particularly in
that area) would go up to the Catskills for the summer. I
was a kid and naturally they dragged me along, so for a
couple of months during the summer I was out in the country.
I really had the benefit of both environments--the
stimulation of the city and all the things that the city can
offer, and I was also in the country every summer and was
constantly collecting little animals, pets in a jar--I wrote
a book called Pets in a Jar, naturally. Today I live
in a suburb but have a country house as well, and every week
I go up to the country house and spend some time there. So I
still consider myself both a city kid and a country kid.
JONES: How have your
interests changed through the years?
SIMON:I think I’ve maintained
most of my interests. When I was in junior high school I was
very interested in space (and I still am), and I went down
to the Museum of Natural History and the Hayden Planetarium
(which is part of it), to a club there for people below
college age. The Junior Astronomy Club had hundreds of
members, many from the New York area, but actually from all
over the country and even the world. During that time I made
my own telescope, I taught classes, I met astronomers. And
that interest in space led to the many books about space I
have written and still write: books about all the planets,
except for Pluto, of course, because we don’t know that much
about it, and books about stars and the sun and news from
space and stuff like that. So, if I were to name two of the
principal themes of my books, one would be animals and
animal behavior, and the other would be space.
JONES: What has been your
most surprising or enjoyable book to research?
SIMON: The funniest book I
ever did was The Paper Airplane Book, which was kind
of a lark when I wrote it, and I expected it to be very
slight. The book was published in 1971 and is still in
print. I still get letters from kids who have just read it
and have made me a paper airplane. I guess that book has had
the most impact--far beyond anything I would have imagined.
In more recent times, I
suppose two favorites are the books on space, which are in
full color and are oversized books that kids love, and the
books on animals, which are the same thing, you know,
oversized, colorful books.
JONES: I noticed in your
book Icebergs and Glaciers that you thank some new
friends you’ve made in Alaska. Did you go there to do
research?
SIMON: I spent a week in
Alaska, in Ketchikan; I was also speaking in the schools and
in the library there. Ketchikan is a small enough town that
within a day or two, people recognized me in the street,
which really gave me a kick to no end, because no one of
course recognizes me in New York. In Ketchikan I could be
walking down the street and a kid would go past in a truck
and yell from the back of the truck, "Hiya Seymour!
That just gave me an enormous kick. And the people there
were so friendly and giving. One of them took me up in his
private airplane--all of them have airplanes there, that’s
the way they get around, you know these airplanes which have
pontoons and land on water--and he took me up and let me
look at things from the air, which I found absolutely
terrifying, but absolutely fascinating.
JONES: What amazes me about
your books is your ability to retain the child’s
perspective. You devise wonderful comparisons that a child
can easily follow, for example, by comparing the growth of
Earth’s mantle plates to the rate of our fingernail growth.
How do you continue to seek that child’s perspective?
SIMON: I have a favorite
story about a teacher that illuminates the way I write: the
teacher is teaching a class, and he’s looking at the faces
of the people in the class and he can see that they don’t
understand what he’s teaching. So he goes over it a second
time, and he’s looking at their faces and he can tell that
they still don’t understand what he’s teaching. So he says
it a third time. And finally, he understands what
he’s teaching. That’s sort of what happens with me. If I
have to ask myself, Do I understand this?, the answer is no.
When I finally give an explanation that is clear enough, a
little bell goes off and I say, Oh, that’s what I
mean! and then I know that I’m able to do it. A lot of these
books I heavily rewrite before they’re even sent out. I’ll
read something the next day and if it’s at all unclear, if
I’m not sure what I’m talking about or what I meant, then
I’ll just work on it again and again until the meaning
becomes perfectly clear.
JONES: I know you continue to
speak in classrooms and you have an interactive Web site,
and I wonder, are there particular topics that have always
interested kids, or have their interests changed?
SIMON: The interests are not
terribly different. One might think that they’re more
mechanical or more electronic or something like that;
they’re not. They’re still interested in dinosaurs when
they’re young, they’re still interested in animals, they’re
still interested in space, they still love spectacular
things, you know, things that go BOOM! The interests are so
similar to mine when I was a kid, to those of kids I taught,
and to those of kids I see now when I’m speaking in schools,
so that if you changed the kind of clothes they wear to more
old-fashioned clothes, they would be saying the same thing.
What has always astounded me is how much they know. I mean,
I go into a kindergarten class and talk about dinosaurs and
say something, and some kid is going to raise his hand and
say, "That’s not a Brontosaurus, that’s an Apatosaurus!"It
just amazes me that they can’t even tie their shoelaces, but
they know the names of twenty different dinosaurs.
JONES: I’m also curious to
know how important themes of ecology and conservation are in
your books.
SIMON: They’ve always been
important. Years and years ago, I wrote two books,
Science Projects in Ecology and Science Projects in
Pollution. This was in the seventies, when I was just
beginning to write, so they’ve never failed to be important
to me. All of my books about animals have something about
the environment and ecology in them, and likewise all of my
books about things which impact the environment in both a
negative and a positive way--let’s say cars, I just did a
book on cars, and I talked about pollution caused by
cars--so I’m always aware of it. And while at this point in
my life I don’t do separate books about the environment,
it’s a common theme in many of my books.
JONES: What are your new
projects?
SIMON: I’m working on two new
series for young children. One’s called Let’s Try It Out.
There are going to be ten books in the series. They are
hands-on, early-learning science activities accompanied by
drawings of kids carrying out the activities--which by the
way are just charming; the illustrator is Doug Cushman, and
he did a wonderful job. This is really my first
collaboration. I’m working with Nicole Fauteux, who happens
to be the mother of two of my grandchildren, my
daughter-in-law. She’s a writer and a film maker, way before
she did this, and we collaborated on the idea for this
series. What’s really unique about it, I think, is that we
not only work on it well but everything in these books has
been tested in kindergarten and first-grade classes. Nicole
has been going in and doing everything that we do in the
books, and as a consequence we have thrown out about a third
of the things we initially had in, and put in other things
in order to make sure they were understood and really
worked. The first two are out, and they’re called Let’s
Try It Out in the Water and
Let’s Try It Out in the Air.
The other series I want to
mention is called SeeMore Readers. SeeMore Readers are for
beginning readers, and they’re in the familiar format such
books are put in, but they’re unique. First of all they’re
in full color, and they’re designed to look very much like
my other books. That is, they’re double-spread photographs
and so on. They’re written on levels--Level 1, Level 2; I’m
actually starting to do Level 3, for the new series for
2003. I’ll just give you an idea of some of the topics.
The ones coming out in about
a month are Giant Machines, Killer Whales, Planets around
the Sun, Wild Bears, Danger! Earthquakes, and Super
Storms. And you can see that these are really designed
to appeal to kids. We’ve also done all kinds of special
things for them. For example, in the back of each book is a
set of four trading cards, so Giant Machines has
collectible photo cards of the tractors and dump trucks from
the book, and Wild Bears has photo cards of some of
the bears from the book. Each of the books has been really
vetted by people who teach reading, to make sure that the
levels are correct. I sent these out to a whole bunch of
people, the Reading Association and other reading groups,
and they got enormously good reviews. So we’re really very,
very pleased about these books.
JONES: What are you working
on now? Do you think you’ll ever stop writing?
SIMON: No, never! I have two
books coming out. I wrote a book on trucks, because one of
my grandchildren was very interested in trucks when I
started to write the book. It’s called Seymour Simon’s
Book of Trucks, but it took a long time for the book to
come out. It was several years after I promised to write
Joel a book on trucks that it finally came out. He’s my
oldest grandchild, and he’s in third grade now. When I gave
him the book, I said, "Look, Joel, I have a book on trucks
for you," and he said, "Seymour" (he calls me Seymour), he
said, "Seymour, I’m not interested in trucks anymore." My
face really fell, and I said, "That’s okay." And he said,
"Benjamin is interested in trucks!" Benjamin is his younger
brother, who is now in first grade (when the book came out
he was in kindergarten). Sure enough, I realized that it
doesn’t make any difference--if one generation of kids moves
past trucks, there’s another generation who are just
becoming interested in them.
There’s a new book coming out
called Seymour Simon’s Book of Trains, and I just
wrote a book about new things in space called
Destination: Space, and that’s going to be coming out
pretty soon. And on my agenda are books on dogs, cats, and
horses. I’ll be doing those for HarperCollins, which is one
of my principal publishers. And two books of mine, which are
the first space books, done in black and white many years
ago, are now being redone in color. That’s a book on earth
and a book on the moon. There’s a lot more! I did a book on
tornadoes, and I’m going to be doing a follow-up on
hurricanes. The list goes on. I’m still getting as much
enjoyment out of writing books as I did when I started. And
if that enjoyment ever stops, then I’m simply going to stop
writing books.
JONES: That’s wonderful. I
hope you don’t!
SIMON: Thank you.
Eleise Jones is
assistant editor for children’s books at
Ruminator Review.
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